sunspear grind - Guild Wars Forums

wishface · Aug 22, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45

I need to get about 800 points for the next story mission. But how? I have no quests left that give me points.

I gotta say, the PvE section is pretty turgid after a while. The online community is on balance pretty unhelpful and disinterested in grouping. Using the heroes/ henchmen just turns combat into a mess. There's no point in adopting any strategy either since the best thing is to go en masse target after target. I have to say I'm getting very bored of being dragged halfway across the map killing the same mass of mobs every time just to be told to go to another point and so on. The Fools Luck mission is a perfect example; it is simpley the worst mission I've ever played. It is boring, tedious and exceptionally long winded. I am finding precious little incentive to continue pve in NF other than getting stuff for pvp.

Healers Wisper · Aug 22, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54

goto the rez shrine and talk to the poor guy left to guard it. he'll give you a bounty and then you go kill what he tells you to. Lazy sob sends me to do his work..... He should do it and I should ss pts free

wishface · Aug 22, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55

I know about the bounty thing, but i need 800points. That's just dull gameplay.

AngeloM3 · Aug 22, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07

it may be dull...... but its still gameplay that has to get done.

wishface · Aug 22, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15

that's the problem.

dargon · Aug 23, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

I'm sure if you wander around and look at the different NPC's, you'll find more quests you can do while killing the mobs you have bounties for. Really though, 800 points isn't that difficult to get.

Darkobra · Aug 23, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49

7 points per kill, 115 kills. Doesn't seem so tough.

Coloneh · Aug 23, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43

if you can find any way to have fun here go play runescape. then come back. I guarantee guild wars will seem alot funner. and if your just here to complain feel free to quit and dont let the dont hit you in the ass.

Iuris · Aug 23, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

It's all actually just the penalty for not having taken on bounties from the start. If you do that, you barely ever have to go out specifically to earn points.

wishface · Aug 23, 2007, 07:14 AM // 07:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

if you can find any way to have fun here go play runescape. then come back. I guarantee guild wars will seem alot funner. and if your just here to complain feel free to quit and dont let the dont hit you in the ass.

charming attitude.

i thought guild wars wasn't about grinding and all the boring stuff other online games make you do.

wishface · Aug 23, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iuris

It's all actually just the penalty for not having taken on bounties from the start. If you do that, you barely ever have to go out specifically to earn points.

I have done.

Isileth · Aug 23, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17

Sadly its a cheap and easy way of extending the playtime of a game. GW compared to other games is very good and not forcing you to grind. It still is present however and wont be going away anytime soon. But you wont find less in any other MMO tbh. Its something you just have to grit your teeth and get it over with. Thankfully due to the bounties it doesnt take that long, just try not to let it ruin the rest of the game for you.

SotiCoto · Aug 23, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31

If you're actually having difficulty gaining Sunspear points anywhere outside of Istan (assuming NM) then there is something seriously wrong.

Given that I can take a few bounties and go on a random killing spree just while running between outposts to unlock them on the M-map... and end up with Sunspear Rank 6 before I even notice the progression..... it isn't that much of a grind.

If you want to start complaining about it being a grind, wait until you reach Rank 8 on your way to Rank 9 and have to do it all in Hard Mode with Judundu. THAT is a grind.

wishface · Aug 23, 2007, 08:44 AM // 08:44

I think the problem is the heroes and the henchmen, they take a lot out of combat. All you have is a large mob of characters who wade in with you. It detracts from stealth, strategy and planning. There is very little control you can realistically exert over them and half the time even promoting them to do things like rez you is fruitless. That plus the fact that most of the groups of mobs outnumber you so taking a considered approach to formation (ie sticking healers at the back) just doesn't work beause the mobs run around them or move about so much anyway. It tries a formation approach in an environment that disregards it. It's nt like Total War where you can hold the line with large armies. It's a shame because it's a nice idea, but it doesn't really work.

It also means that I can't maximise the effectveness of my skills since I don't fight alone or even with a team of prepared players, as per PVP.

RTSFirebat · Aug 23, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15

This is what happens when people don't do bounties along the way. If you had done while doing quests you'd have plenty now... i have almost 5000+ point in no time at all without even trying.

Iuris · Aug 23, 2007, 10:30 AM // 10:30

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I have done.

So have I, on three characters, and I never had any particular trouble, so riddle me that

Yanman.be · Aug 23, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46

If you want to see real grind, go play Silkroad Online, WoW, runescape, or any other MMO.

Devronius · Aug 23, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48

I have a little over 15,000 sunspear points on my main character now. How do you think I feel? Getting up to 800 is nothing really. Explore the world, look at the scenery

quickmonty · Aug 23, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48

Take some time and learn how to use the heroes and henchmen. I find they are better than most PUGs. The problem is that they are no better than the person using them. It sounds like you are still on the starter island. If you are having serious problems there you will find it extremely difficult once you reach the mainland. Maybe, find a nice guild that is willing to help newer players. And you won't find much sympathy here on the forums, especially if you try to shoot down people who are trying to offer solutions to your problems.

wishface · Aug 23, 2007, 11:13 AM // 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devronius

I have a little over 15,000 sunspear points on my main character now. How do you think I feel? Getting up to 800 is nothing really. Explore the world, look at the scenery

not getting to 800. getting 800.

Aug 22, 2007, 10:45 PM // 22:45	#1
wishface Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007	sunspear grind I need to get about 800 points for the next story mission. But how? I have no quests left that give me points. I gotta say, the PvE section is pretty turgid after a while. The online community is on balance pretty unhelpful and disinterested in grouping. Using the heroes/ henchmen just turns combat into a mess. There's no point in adopting any strategy either since the best thing is to go en masse target after target. I have to say I'm getting very bored of being dragged halfway across the map killing the same mass of mobs every time just to be told to go to another point and so on. The Fools Luck mission is a perfect example; it is simpley the worst mission I've ever played. It is boring, tedious and exceptionally long winded. I am finding precious little incentive to continue pve in NF other than getting stuff for pvp.

Aug 23, 2007, 09:15 AM // 09:15	#15
RTSFirebat The Humanoid Typhoon Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Guild: Servants of Fortuna [SoF] Profession: R/	This is what happens when people don't do bounties along the way. If you had done while doing quests you'd have plenty now... i have almost 5000+ point in no time at all without even trying. __________________ Guru Event Guide Editor

Aug 22, 2007, 10:54 PM // 22:54	#2
Healers Wisper Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Anaheim, CA Guild: BoMB Profession: N/	goto the rez shrine and talk to the poor guy left to guard it. he'll give you a bounty and then you go kill what he tells you to. Lazy sob sends me to do his work..... He should do it and I should ss pts free

Aug 22, 2007, 10:55 PM // 22:55	#3
wishface Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007	I know about the bounty thing, but i need 800points. That's just dull gameplay.

Aug 22, 2007, 11:07 PM // 23:07	#4
AngeloM3 Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: RI Guild: Diciples of Rage [RAGE]	it may be dull...... but its still gameplay that has to get done.

Aug 22, 2007, 11:15 PM // 23:15	#5
wishface Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007	that's the problem.

Aug 23, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37	#6
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	I'm sure if you wander around and look at the different NPC's, you'll find more quests you can do while killing the mobs you have bounties for. Really though, 800 points isn't that difficult to get.

Aug 23, 2007, 12:49 AM // 00:49	#7
Darkobra Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Scotland Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot Profession: E/Me	7 points per kill, 115 kills. Doesn't seem so tough.

Aug 23, 2007, 04:43 AM // 04:43	#8
Coloneh Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2006 Profession: D/W	if you can find any way to have fun here go play runescape. then come back. I guarantee guild wars will seem alot funner. and if your just here to complain feel free to quit and dont let the dont hit you in the ass.

Aug 23, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14	#9
Iuris Forge Runner Join Date: Nov 2006 Guild: Crazy ducks from the Forest Profession: W/	It's all actually just the penalty for not having taken on bounties from the start. If you do that, you barely ever have to go out specifically to earn points.

Aug 23, 2007, 08:17 AM // 08:17	#12
Isileth Jungle Guide Join Date: Apr 2006 Profession: R/W	Sadly its a cheap and easy way of extending the playtime of a game. GW compared to other games is very good and not forcing you to grind. It still is present however and wont be going away anytime soon. But you wont find less in any other MMO tbh. Its something you just have to grit your teeth and get it over with. Thankfully due to the bounties it doesnt take that long, just try not to let it ruin the rest of the game for you.

Aug 23, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31	#13
SotiCoto Banned Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Drazach Thicket Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]	If you're actually having difficulty gaining Sunspear points anywhere outside of Istan (assuming NM) then there is something seriously wrong. Given that I can take a few bounties and go on a random killing spree just while running between outposts to unlock them on the M-map... and end up with Sunspear Rank 6 before I even notice the progression..... it isn't that much of a grind. If you want to start complaining about it being a grind, wait until you reach Rank 8 on your way to Rank 9 and have to do it all in Hard Mode with Judundu. THAT is a grind.

Aug 23, 2007, 08:44 AM // 08:44	#14
wishface Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2007	I think the problem is the heroes and the henchmen, they take a lot out of combat. All you have is a large mob of characters who wade in with you. It detracts from stealth, strategy and planning. There is very little control you can realistically exert over them and half the time even promoting them to do things like rez you is fruitless. That plus the fact that most of the groups of mobs outnumber you so taking a considered approach to formation (ie sticking healers at the back) just doesn't work beause the mobs run around them or move about so much anyway. It tries a formation approach in an environment that disregards it. It's nt like Total War where you can hold the line with large armies. It's a shame because it's a nice idea, but it doesn't really work. It also means that I can't maximise the effectveness of my skills since I don't fight alone or even with a team of prepared players, as per PVP.

Aug 23, 2007, 10:46 AM // 10:46	#17
Yanman.be Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Belgium Guild: [ROSE] Profession: A/	If you want to see real grind, go play Silkroad Online, WoW, runescape, or any other MMO.

Aug 23, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48	#18
Devronius Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Portsmouth, UK Guild: Flowers Of Evil	I have a little over 15,000 sunspear points on my main character now. How do you think I feel? Getting up to 800 is nothing really. Explore the world, look at the scenery

Aug 23, 2007, 10:48 AM // 10:48	#19
quickmonty Ancient Windbreaker Join Date: May 2005	Take some time and learn how to use the heroes and henchmen. I find they are better than most PUGs. The problem is that they are no better than the person using them. It sounds like you are still on the starter island. If you are having serious problems there you will find it extremely difficult once you reach the mainland. Maybe, find a nice guild that is willing to help newer players. And you won't find much sympathy here on the forums, especially if you try to shoot down people who are trying to offer solutions to your problems.